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		<title>By: I&#8217;ve Emptied My Feedreader Into A Blog Post — Teach My Children Well</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/02/getting-inside-our-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>I&#8217;ve Emptied My Feedreader Into A Blog Post — Teach My Children Well</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Places I&#8217;ve visited 1. Spain 2. France 3. Netherlands 4. Canary Islands 5. Ireland 6. Belgium 7. Dallas/Fort [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/02/getting-inside-our-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-1003</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cath - Yes, the story can feel very misogynistic, can&#039;t it.  Maybe Eve just preferred bad boys, eh?  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cath &#8211; Yes, the story can feel very misogynistic, can&#8217;t it.  Maybe Eve just preferred bad boys, eh?  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: CatherineL</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/02/getting-inside-our-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-996</link>
		<dc:creator>CatherineL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 20:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess - because there&#039;s more chance of it being true - if there was multiple authors, as you say.  It would just be really nice to know how it really was.  I love visiting historical places but it would be so much more awesome to visit the real thing.

I&#039;ve always had an uncomfortable feeling about the Adam and Eve story though - I guess it&#039;s because Eve got the blame.  I wish I could have been a fly on the wall.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;CatherineL´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cathlawson.com/2009/02/06/google-pagerank-is-meaningless-but-we-still-bloody-well-need-it/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Google PageRank Is Meaningless But We Still Bloody Well Need It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess &#8211; because there&#8217;s more chance of it being true &#8211; if there was multiple authors, as you say.  It would just be really nice to know how it really was.  I love visiting historical places but it would be so much more awesome to visit the real thing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always had an uncomfortable feeling about the Adam and Eve story though &#8211; I guess it&#8217;s because Eve got the blame.  I wish I could have been a fly on the wall.</p>
<p><abbr><em>CatherineL´s last blog post..<a href="http://cathlawson.com/2009/02/06/google-pagerank-is-meaningless-but-we-still-bloody-well-need-it/" rel="nofollow">Google PageRank Is Meaningless But We Still Bloody Well Need It</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/02/getting-inside-our-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 21:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cath - Yes, I suppose we could.  But it would be hard to zero in on and then re-create the oomph from multiple authors that give myths their universality, wouldn&#039;t it?  It&#039;s like every tradition has its Giant Flood story with or without Noah, and the discovery of the Ark on top of that mountain was kind of neat.  Oh, well.  I don&#039;t need to know whether Adam and Eve is &quot;true.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cath &#8211; Yes, I suppose we could.  But it would be hard to zero in on and then re-create the oomph from multiple authors that give myths their universality, wouldn&#8217;t it?  It&#8217;s like every tradition has its Giant Flood story with or without Noah, and the discovery of the Ark on top of that mountain was kind of neat.  Oh, well.  I don&#8217;t need to know whether Adam and Eve is &#8220;true.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Cath Lawson</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/02/getting-inside-our-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Cath Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 16:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see what you mean Betsy.  I guess it may be impossible for only good to exist on this earth.

I&#039;m not sure that I believe in Adam and Eve though.  I believe in God but I don&#039;t really believe that all that we read in the bible is true.  For all we know, so crazy person on drugs could have written all that.  

We could do the same now - we could write a totally invented story and people a couple of thousands of years down the line could believe it was true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see what you mean Betsy.  I guess it may be impossible for only good to exist on this earth.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure that I believe in Adam and Eve though.  I believe in God but I don&#8217;t really believe that all that we read in the bible is true.  For all we know, so crazy person on drugs could have written all that.  </p>
<p>We could do the same now &#8211; we could write a totally invented story and people a couple of thousands of years down the line could believe it was true.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/02/getting-inside-our-heads/comment-page-1/#comment-970</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 12:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kool Aid - Welcome to PassingThru!  And thank you for the tag.  I bet we could trade premie stories back and forth for quite some time!  Yes, I&#039;ve never been the sort to accept what the doctors say as gospel, but rather, have tried to summon my gut as well when evaluating.  It would be interesting to put together a course in empathy for some of them, wouldn&#039;t it?  Thank you and hope to see more of you.

Hi Jannie - I&#039;m not well-versed in Montessori&#039;s teachings, so I found your mention a fascinating corollary to this post.  Thank you.  I do remember hearing in Early Childhood learning circles from those days, that one could count on an even/odd six month trajectory with children.  You&#039;d get six months of great, and then six months of &quot;adjusting&quot; to new behaviors.  It seemed to bear out with my children, although I wouldn&#039;t discount a self-fulfilling prophecy, either!  Thank you.

Hi Honey - LOL - we can always find you serving up whatever and whoever&#039;s in the house.

Hi Cath - This experience with my son was a defining moment in my life in so many ways.  On one level - the most disassociative one - it was fascinating to learn and observe.  Premature babies act and respond very differently than full-term babies.  Their needs and complications are escalated to high alerts and their responses are so radical - they literally shut down from stress, and can fade away without drastic intervention.

The NICU was like walking into the future with all the technology, lights, buzzers, alarms.  (Nowadays, it&#039;s a much quieter, soothing environment).  At the same time, dealing with my son and his tiny neighbors was an opportunity to look inside the womb for almost 3 months.  When he started looking and acting more like a &quot;real&quot; baby, I was saddened in a way.  It was as if we were moving away from the miraculous.  But then I found out there were other miracles to come.

I think what you say about only putting the good in, rather than the bad, has a mythical connotation.  Weren&#039;t Adam and Eve originally perfect and ageless?  Wasn&#039;t physical death only manifested after temptation?  Thanks and again, so good to have you back and feeling better.

Hi Patricia - Yes, I remember you mentioning your daughter&#039;s unique set of attributes.  It is so challenging, isn&#039;t it?  Since this was my first parenting experience, I had to throw the books away.  I can remember wishing fervently - &quot;all I want is a C student, good in sports.  Do people with kids like that know how lucky they are?&quot;

We also were told compensatory effects would kick in.  And the compensations were amazing in their scope.  There was very little specific prognostication, but I do remember being told he might never walk or write his name.  Pfffttt!  He made all-conference in adapted athletics and has an Associates Degree in broadcasting.  And yes, he can write his own name.  So, ultimately, God answered me.   I got my C student, good in sports.  :)

I think it&#039;s the fluidity of justification in some ethical circles that bothers me the most.  And the lack of empathy.  There is no substitute for experience, yet we each process our own differently and reach individual conclusions. 

And, in another conversation I saw recently, the participants seemed to feel that we are savvy and sophisticated enough to adapt and override shady ethics in marketing and advertising.  I&#039;m not sure about that.  Collectively, we can&#039;t seem to shake off the perception that current times are the equivalent of the Great Depression when they most certainly don&#039;t even come close.  How are we going to resist youth-enizing face cream?  (Pun intended).

Thanks to all of you for furthering the topic.  Especially, Pete, who is now serving dopamine cocktails.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kool Aid &#8211; Welcome to PassingThru!  And thank you for the tag.  I bet we could trade premie stories back and forth for quite some time!  Yes, I&#8217;ve never been the sort to accept what the doctors say as gospel, but rather, have tried to summon my gut as well when evaluating.  It would be interesting to put together a course in empathy for some of them, wouldn&#8217;t it?  Thank you and hope to see more of you.</p>
<p>Hi Jannie &#8211; I&#8217;m not well-versed in Montessori&#8217;s teachings, so I found your mention a fascinating corollary to this post.  Thank you.  I do remember hearing in Early Childhood learning circles from those days, that one could count on an even/odd six month trajectory with children.  You&#8217;d get six months of great, and then six months of &#8220;adjusting&#8221; to new behaviors.  It seemed to bear out with my children, although I wouldn&#8217;t discount a self-fulfilling prophecy, either!  Thank you.</p>
<p>Hi Honey &#8211; LOL &#8211; we can always find you serving up whatever and whoever&#8217;s in the house.</p>
<p>Hi Cath &#8211; This experience with my son was a defining moment in my life in so many ways.  On one level &#8211; the most disassociative one &#8211; it was fascinating to learn and observe.  Premature babies act and respond very differently than full-term babies.  Their needs and complications are escalated to high alerts and their responses are so radical &#8211; they literally shut down from stress, and can fade away without drastic intervention.</p>
<p>The NICU was like walking into the future with all the technology, lights, buzzers, alarms.  (Nowadays, it&#8217;s a much quieter, soothing environment).  At the same time, dealing with my son and his tiny neighbors was an opportunity to look inside the womb for almost 3 months.  When he started looking and acting more like a &#8220;real&#8221; baby, I was saddened in a way.  It was as if we were moving away from the miraculous.  But then I found out there were other miracles to come.</p>
<p>I think what you say about only putting the good in, rather than the bad, has a mythical connotation.  Weren&#8217;t Adam and Eve originally perfect and ageless?  Wasn&#8217;t physical death only manifested after temptation?  Thanks and again, so good to have you back and feeling better.</p>
<p>Hi Patricia &#8211; Yes, I remember you mentioning your daughter&#8217;s unique set of attributes.  It is so challenging, isn&#8217;t it?  Since this was my first parenting experience, I had to throw the books away.  I can remember wishing fervently &#8211; &#8220;all I want is a C student, good in sports.  Do people with kids like that know how lucky they are?&#8221;</p>
<p>We also were told compensatory effects would kick in.  And the compensations were amazing in their scope.  There was very little specific prognostication, but I do remember being told he might never walk or write his name.  Pfffttt!  He made all-conference in adapted athletics and has an Associates Degree in broadcasting.  And yes, he can write his own name.  So, ultimately, God answered me.   I got my C student, good in sports.  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s the fluidity of justification in some ethical circles that bothers me the most.  And the lack of empathy.  There is no substitute for experience, yet we each process our own differently and reach individual conclusions. </p>
<p>And, in another conversation I saw recently, the participants seemed to feel that we are savvy and sophisticated enough to adapt and override shady ethics in marketing and advertising.  I&#8217;m not sure about that.  Collectively, we can&#8217;t seem to shake off the perception that current times are the equivalent of the Great Depression when they most certainly don&#8217;t even come close.  How are we going to resist youth-enizing face cream?  (Pun intended).</p>
<p>Thanks to all of you for furthering the topic.  Especially, Pete, who is now serving dopamine cocktails.</p>
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		<title>By: Patricia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patricia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 03:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My youngest child has a hole in her brain in long term memory - she can&#039;t get certain memories out that are stored.  There is no repair yet, or way to grow the receptors in place, but if she learns like a stroke victim she can get the information out through her artistic part of the brain.

I hardest part of my working life has been working with new parents with hard birth stories and parents who know there are huge abnormalities with their unborn child...making ethical decisions is a tough go for doctors and parents and whole groups of people.

One church in town dumped so much garbage in our yard during one decision making cycle, that the garbage truck came everyday to pick up and my children were shipped out to my Mother&#039;s house.  They were responding to an untrue rumor/newspaper story and making death threats and they knew nothing of what they were talking about or what I was involved with....and it was all taking place in Iowa not anywhere that I lived.  

I wish I could think that advertisers would turn up their ethical vision - but since Phillip Morris bought Kraft and is doing the same kind of advertising as they did for cigarettes. I don&#039;t find myself very hopeful or optimistic.

Very well done post and information sharing...I love studying this stuff. Thank you

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Patricia´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/02/i-needs/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Needs&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My youngest child has a hole in her brain in long term memory &#8211; she can&#8217;t get certain memories out that are stored.  There is no repair yet, or way to grow the receptors in place, but if she learns like a stroke victim she can get the information out through her artistic part of the brain.</p>
<p>I hardest part of my working life has been working with new parents with hard birth stories and parents who know there are huge abnormalities with their unborn child&#8230;making ethical decisions is a tough go for doctors and parents and whole groups of people.</p>
<p>One church in town dumped so much garbage in our yard during one decision making cycle, that the garbage truck came everyday to pick up and my children were shipped out to my Mother&#8217;s house.  They were responding to an untrue rumor/newspaper story and making death threats and they knew nothing of what they were talking about or what I was involved with&#8230;.and it was all taking place in Iowa not anywhere that I lived.  </p>
<p>I wish I could think that advertisers would turn up their ethical vision &#8211; but since Phillip Morris bought Kraft and is doing the same kind of advertising as they did for cigarettes. I don&#8217;t find myself very hopeful or optimistic.</p>
<p>Very well done post and information sharing&#8230;I love studying this stuff. Thank you</p>
<p><abbr><em>Patricia´s last blog post..<a href="http://patriciaswisdom.com/2009/02/i-needs/" rel="nofollow">I Needs</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Cath Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cath Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Feb 2009 00:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Betsy - That is an awesome story.  And it&#039;s truly amazing that your son&#039;s brain could repair itself.  The more I hear these stories, the more I see the potential in what Robin has to say abut healing ourselves and living forever.

Like you, I worry that it could be taken to far though.  It would be nice to rid the world of terrible crime - but it would just take another nut, like Hitler, who wanted to experiment on live brains and clone himself - then where we would be.

I hope that we will find a way to make these improvements, without medical intervention.  But I wonder if that could only happen, if the good we put into the world as a whole, is greater than the bad.  I only wish we knew how to go about making that happen.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Cath Lawson´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cathlawson.com/2009/02/03/dead-hamsters-other-customers-service-issues/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Dead Hamsters &amp; Other Customers Service Issues&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Betsy &#8211; That is an awesome story.  And it&#8217;s truly amazing that your son&#8217;s brain could repair itself.  The more I hear these stories, the more I see the potential in what Robin has to say abut healing ourselves and living forever.</p>
<p>Like you, I worry that it could be taken to far though.  It would be nice to rid the world of terrible crime &#8211; but it would just take another nut, like Hitler, who wanted to experiment on live brains and clone himself &#8211; then where we would be.</p>
<p>I hope that we will find a way to make these improvements, without medical intervention.  But I wonder if that could only happen, if the good we put into the world as a whole, is greater than the bad.  I only wish we knew how to go about making that happen.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Cath Lawson´s last blog post..<a href="http://cathlawson.com/2009/02/03/dead-hamsters-other-customers-service-issues/" rel="nofollow">Dead Hamsters &amp; Other Customers Service Issues</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 19:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL . . . I&#039;ll buy a round of dopamine for the house.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pete´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.zazzle.com/mystic_rose_wedding_decal_sticker-217102040372310532?gl=pjwuebker&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;MYSTIC ROSE WEDDING DECAL&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL . . . I&#8217;ll buy a round of dopamine for the house.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Pete´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.zazzle.com/mystic_rose_wedding_decal_sticker-217102040372310532?gl=pjwuebker" rel="nofollow">MYSTIC ROSE WEDDING DECAL</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Jannie Funster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannie Funster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely fascinating.

And Maria Montessori was SO RIGHT that the final plane of childhood ends about 24 years of age, as she grouped the &quot;sensitive stages&quot; in roughly 6 year periods, (with the the sub-age of 3 to 6 in a category all its own. )  Unfortunately she never lived to see her theory proven, as she died in old age while researching that 18-to-24 year old phase.  She&#039;s probably up in heaven giving a big hurrah at these scientific brain findings.

God bless you and your son, what a miracle.

Oh, and more dopamine, please! :)

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Jannie Funster´s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.janniefunster.com/?p=3930&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doing It&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely fascinating.</p>
<p>And Maria Montessori was SO RIGHT that the final plane of childhood ends about 24 years of age, as she grouped the &#8220;sensitive stages&#8221; in roughly 6 year periods, (with the the sub-age of 3 to 6 in a category all its own. )  Unfortunately she never lived to see her theory proven, as she died in old age while researching that 18-to-24 year old phase.  She&#8217;s probably up in heaven giving a big hurrah at these scientific brain findings.</p>
<p>God bless you and your son, what a miracle.</p>
<p>Oh, and more dopamine, please! <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><abbr><em>Jannie Funster´s last blog post..<a href="http://www.janniefunster.com/?p=3930" rel="nofollow">Doing It</a></em></abbr></p>
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