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		<title>By: Relaaaaaaaaaaax — Let's Live Forever!</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/09/surrender-consecration-and-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-3923</link>
		<dc:creator>Relaaaaaaaaaaax — Let's Live Forever!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2009 00:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/09/surrender-consecration-and-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-3838</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 15:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jeanne - Welcome to PassingThru!  Either the &quot;cosmic mind&quot; or collective insanity!  :D  We&#039;re glad you&#039;re enjoying yourself here and we hope you&#039;ll stick around.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jeanne &#8211; Welcome to PassingThru!  Either the &#8220;cosmic mind&#8221; or collective insanity!  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   We&#8217;re glad you&#8217;re enjoying yourself here and we hope you&#8217;ll stick around.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 14:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Betsy:  I just came upon this post via Dot&#039;s blog --- and suddenly I&#039;m experiencing serendipity!  I&#039;d just finished &quot;pre-writing&quot; tomorrow&#039;s post and it&#039;s so in line with what you say here.  It just makes me think that the cosmic mind is working very effectively, the way it provides the same or similar messages to the likes of us, to put out there!

I&#039;m really glad to have found you, I&#039;m so enjoying your posts, and will be spending a good deal of time &quot;catching up&quot; with your &quot;old stuff&quot;--- You and Pete are awesome!
.-= Jeanne&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DreamAHappyLife/~3/lRIQm5UUU7w/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;I Gotta Stop It, Already!&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Betsy:  I just came upon this post via Dot&#8217;s blog &#8212; and suddenly I&#8217;m experiencing serendipity!  I&#8217;d just finished &#8220;pre-writing&#8221; tomorrow&#8217;s post and it&#8217;s so in line with what you say here.  It just makes me think that the cosmic mind is working very effectively, the way it provides the same or similar messages to the likes of us, to put out there!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really glad to have found you, I&#8217;m so enjoying your posts, and will be spending a good deal of time &#8220;catching up&#8221; with your &#8220;old stuff&#8221;&#8212; You and Pete are awesome!<br />
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/09/surrender-consecration-and-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-3711</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cath - I&#039;ve not had much luck with meditation either, but obviously there are legions who swear by it.  I do think there is conventional wisdom/anecdote about letting go, especially in dating.  Stop looking! is what all the advice seems to say.  And I think whether our lives are awesome is a matter of our own perception of same circumstances on any given day, no?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cath &#8211; I&#8217;ve not had much luck with meditation either, but obviously there are legions who swear by it.  I do think there is conventional wisdom/anecdote about letting go, especially in dating.  Stop looking! is what all the advice seems to say.  And I think whether our lives are awesome is a matter of our own perception of same circumstances on any given day, no?  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Cath Lawson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cath Lawson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 10:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL Betsy - I often drop by to see if you&#039;ve written anything - but a watched pot never boils.  Then I look in my reader and you&#039;ve written two posts.

I love this post.  Before I got really depressed, I was meditating like mad - hoping I would connect with a higher power who would show me exactly everything I need to do to make life awesome.

But reading this, I&#039;m thinking that maybe I was trying to hard.  If I just meditated for the sake of meditating, instead of hoping for something greater, maybe something great will happen when I&#039;m least expecting it.
.-= Cath Lawson&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://cathlawson.com/2009/09/16/are-you-too-lazy-to-live-in-canada/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Are You Too Lazy To Live In Canada?&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL Betsy &#8211; I often drop by to see if you&#8217;ve written anything &#8211; but a watched pot never boils.  Then I look in my reader and you&#8217;ve written two posts.</p>
<p>I love this post.  Before I got really depressed, I was meditating like mad &#8211; hoping I would connect with a higher power who would show me exactly everything I need to do to make life awesome.</p>
<p>But reading this, I&#8217;m thinking that maybe I was trying to hard.  If I just meditated for the sake of meditating, instead of hoping for something greater, maybe something great will happen when I&#8217;m least expecting it.<br />
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 20:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jannie - I had forgotten about that song.  You&#039;d *like* to think they were that deep, eh?  :)  It&#039;s interesting to look back on the NICU days now that the horror has faded (21+ years).  The tether the babes have with life here on earth is so fragile.  Perhaps that&#039;s part of recognizing the lightness you mentioned?  Thanks.

Hi Davina - &quot;Keep your shirt on&quot; is something my dad used to say.  :D  Surrendering does sound so easy, doesn&#039;t it?  It&#039;s that old trust thing that gets in the way, though, especially if our relationship with control is close.  For all the times I&#039;ve realized that good things manifest when I let go, it&#039;s still difficult to maintain.  So maybe instead of easy, it&#039;s simple.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jannie &#8211; I had forgotten about that song.  You&#8217;d *like* to think they were that deep, eh?  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s interesting to look back on the NICU days now that the horror has faded (21+ years).  The tether the babes have with life here on earth is so fragile.  Perhaps that&#8217;s part of recognizing the lightness you mentioned?  Thanks.</p>
<p>Hi Davina &#8211; &#8220;Keep your shirt on&#8221; is something my dad used to say.  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   Surrendering does sound so easy, doesn&#8217;t it?  It&#8217;s that old trust thing that gets in the way, though, especially if our relationship with control is close.  For all the times I&#8217;ve realized that good things manifest when I let go, it&#8217;s still difficult to maintain.  So maybe instead of easy, it&#8217;s simple.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Davina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What do I think Betsy? This is a phenomenal post and my head is spinning a little with all the possibilities the idea of surrender brings. It sounds so EASY. 

To surrender... let go of the ego. What&#039;s left is the natural flow and expression of who we are. The expression that we don&#039;t have to TRY to make happen. The expression where there are no buttons to push. Those buttons are what keep &quot;our shirts on&quot;. Let&#039;s get undressed :-) Brilliant and astounding! I&#039;m updating my latest post with a link to this one.
.-= Davina&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShadesOfCrimson/~3/AFdTfSznoN4/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Thyme of My Life&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What do I think Betsy? This is a phenomenal post and my head is spinning a little with all the possibilities the idea of surrender brings. It sounds so EASY. </p>
<p>To surrender&#8230; let go of the ego. What&#8217;s left is the natural flow and expression of who we are. The expression that we don&#8217;t have to TRY to make happen. The expression where there are no buttons to push. Those buttons are what keep &#8220;our shirts on&#8221;. Let&#8217;s get undressed <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  Brilliant and astounding! I&#8217;m updating my latest post with a link to this one.<br />
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		<title>By: Jannie Funster</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jannie Funster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do love that retreat feeling of lightness.  If only we could all carry that with us at all times.  Well, we can -- but will we?  We need to!

I did not know that about your son and the neonatal days.  That  must&#039;ve been harrowing, to say the least.   Kelly was in there for 4 days, for low blood sugar.  At least we knew what she had and was being treated for it, but I cannot imagine your heartbreak at not knowing what would work. 

I have always wondered at Cheap Trick&#039;s lyrics in their song &quot;Surrender.&quot;  You know it?   &quot;Surrender, surrender, but don&#039;t give yourself away,  awaaaaayy, awaaaaaaaayyyyyy.&quot;  Can we go too far in surrendering?  Or is that just a throw-away line from a song that should not be taken too deeply?

Yours ponderingly, 
Jannie
.-= Jannie Funster&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.janniefunster.com/2009/09/14/its-all-picnics-and-cartwheels-until-the-fire-ants-bite/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;It’s All Picnics And Cartwheels Until The Fire Ants Bite&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do love that retreat feeling of lightness.  If only we could all carry that with us at all times.  Well, we can &#8212; but will we?  We need to!</p>
<p>I did not know that about your son and the neonatal days.  That  must&#8217;ve been harrowing, to say the least.   Kelly was in there for 4 days, for low blood sugar.  At least we knew what she had and was being treated for it, but I cannot imagine your heartbreak at not knowing what would work. </p>
<p>I have always wondered at Cheap Trick&#8217;s lyrics in their song &#8220;Surrender.&#8221;  You know it?   &#8220;Surrender, surrender, but don&#8217;t give yourself away,  awaaaaayy, awaaaaaaaayyyyyy.&#8221;  Can we go too far in surrendering?  Or is that just a throw-away line from a song that should not be taken too deeply?</p>
<p>Yours ponderingly,<br />
Jannie<br />
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 17:07:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Barbara L. - Sorry, you wound up in Akismet.  :)  I too believe, like you, that we are born knowing that.  Much has been written and made of the falling away as infants grow into children, and children grow into adults.  Margaret tapped that with &quot;the natural vividness of childhood.&quot;  And you&#039;re right, it&#039;s not a money-maker for organized religions.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Barbara L. &#8211; Sorry, you wound up in Akismet.  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I too believe, like you, that we are born knowing that.  Much has been written and made of the falling away as infants grow into children, and children grow into adults.  Margaret tapped that with &#8220;the natural vividness of childhood.&#8221;  And you&#8217;re right, it&#8217;s not a money-maker for organized religions.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 12:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walter - Welcome to PassingThru!  &quot;Servants of the mind&quot; - a great way to describe the effect of subconscious manipulation.  What a challenge to remain aware that the effect is present.  Thank you.

Hi Robin - Thank you, I thought there were so many parallels between Megan and your writings.  And yes, there are many stories of miraculous healing or turnaround that one could point to as a result of less intervention.  Glad you enjoyed this!

Hi Barbara - You&#039;re right, in a scary, out-of-control world, we tend to want to have our say over what happens.  A lot of traditional self-help suggests a go-go-go get&#039;r&#039;done approach, doesn&#039;t it.  So that when we do let go, we can still have nagging doubts.  I think this is what makes the process hardest for me, or my ego.  Blame the ego, yes!  Thanks.

Hi Lance - I never would have been inspired to write this if it hadn&#039;t been for you choosing Megan as a guest, so thanks go to you!  And, I appreciate your example of your retreat and how as time passed, it had a waning influence.  It&#039;s so easy to slip back, as we did in the business example, and repeat the cycle of frustration.  Doing it the hard way, right?  Thank you.

Hi Megan - Welcome to PassingThru!  Glad to help you start your day, too.  Thank you for writing what you did over at Lance&#039;s blog and inspiring this riff.  The irony in the old saw, &quot;Be careful what you ask for&quot; relates to these ideas, too. The reinterpretation of what we think we need can sometimes be hilarious when it finally comes to pass.  And yes, I think we need to be mindful of this phenomenon especially in business, where so much frustration and dogged striving occurs, often with disappointing results.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walter &#8211; Welcome to PassingThru!  &#8220;Servants of the mind&#8221; &#8211; a great way to describe the effect of subconscious manipulation.  What a challenge to remain aware that the effect is present.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Hi Robin &#8211; Thank you, I thought there were so many parallels between Megan and your writings.  And yes, there are many stories of miraculous healing or turnaround that one could point to as a result of less intervention.  Glad you enjoyed this!</p>
<p>Hi Barbara &#8211; You&#8217;re right, in a scary, out-of-control world, we tend to want to have our say over what happens.  A lot of traditional self-help suggests a go-go-go get&#8217;r'done approach, doesn&#8217;t it.  So that when we do let go, we can still have nagging doubts.  I think this is what makes the process hardest for me, or my ego.  Blame the ego, yes!  Thanks.</p>
<p>Hi Lance &#8211; I never would have been inspired to write this if it hadn&#8217;t been for you choosing Megan as a guest, so thanks go to you!  And, I appreciate your example of your retreat and how as time passed, it had a waning influence.  It&#8217;s so easy to slip back, as we did in the business example, and repeat the cycle of frustration.  Doing it the hard way, right?  Thank you.</p>
<p>Hi Megan &#8211; Welcome to PassingThru!  Glad to help you start your day, too.  Thank you for writing what you did over at Lance&#8217;s blog and inspiring this riff.  The irony in the old saw, &#8220;Be careful what you ask for&#8221; relates to these ideas, too. The reinterpretation of what we think we need can sometimes be hilarious when it finally comes to pass.  And yes, I think we need to be mindful of this phenomenon especially in business, where so much frustration and dogged striving occurs, often with disappointing results.  Thank you.</p>
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