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		<title>By: Let Your Blog Work For You - 25 Ways &#124; Blogging Without A Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Let Your Blog Work For You - 25 Ways &#124; Blogging Without A Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 09:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Passing Thru who sell custom stamps. For detailed information on what works for them, see the series of posts Betsy and Dot of Deeper Issues published with regard to making money [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bits and Pieces &#124; Deeper Issues</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/10/through-a-glass-grimly-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-4305</link>
		<dc:creator>Bits and Pieces &#124; Deeper Issues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 19:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote in a comment on the last segment of our series on Betsy&#8217;s site, I think you need some artistic or design talent to make a success of it on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I thought everyone should know this retirement deferral situation is shared by none other than Carly Simon:
http://news.muckety.com/2009/10/15/carly-simons-breakup-with-starbucks-and-howard-schultz/21061

Poor Carly.  She might have to give up that Martha&#039;s Vineyard lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I thought everyone should know this retirement deferral situation is shared by none other than Carly Simon:<br />
<a href="http://news.muckety.com/2009/10/15/carly-simons-breakup-with-starbucks-and-howard-schultz/21061" rel="nofollow">http://news.muckety.com/2009/10/15/carly-simons-breakup-with-starbucks-and-howard-schultz/21061</a></p>
<p>Poor Carly.  She might have to give up that Martha&#8217;s Vineyard lifestyle.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/10/through-a-glass-grimly-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-4299</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dot - I know.  It&#039;s so disappointing to realize that something you&#039;ve looked forward to has unexpectedly morphed into something you&#039;d just as soon not have to do at all.  At least being self-employed in retirement means they&#039;re our projects, though.  Projects with the premise of generating cash.

Yeah, on the photo images - Pete has had to photoshop some of them, too.  I&#039;m not exactly sure what he does to them, but the quality isn&#039;t consistent and often he will have to pass on an interesting photo because it&#039;s not going to work.  That&#039;s a trial and error investment. 

And I wouldn&#039;t say creativity has to be at a level where it eludes most of us.  Rather, I&#039;d say the talent behind achieving Zazzle success is in choosing a niche that performs.  If somebody is looking for a theme that you have and you&#039;ve produced an adequate design across a spectrum of products, they will buy.  So far, that seems to be a better strategy than having a bunch of items in one category - like a bunch of mugs or t-shirts that don&#039;t relate to one another.

I have really enjoyed this collaboration, too.  It has been comforting to know that others are facing similar challenges going forward toward retirement.  It&#039;s been fun to share what we&#039;ve learned, and if it helps out, that&#039;s great.  There&#039;s enough potential business out there for everyone to achieve, but there&#039;s no getting around it does take work.  And you&#039;re right about diversification, too.  All eggs one basket doesn&#039;t cut it.

I feel like we took an online friendship to a different level than we had before, too, and that more than anything is rewarding.  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dot &#8211; I know.  It&#8217;s so disappointing to realize that something you&#8217;ve looked forward to has unexpectedly morphed into something you&#8217;d just as soon not have to do at all.  At least being self-employed in retirement means they&#8217;re our projects, though.  Projects with the premise of generating cash.</p>
<p>Yeah, on the photo images &#8211; Pete has had to photoshop some of them, too.  I&#8217;m not exactly sure what he does to them, but the quality isn&#8217;t consistent and often he will have to pass on an interesting photo because it&#8217;s not going to work.  That&#8217;s a trial and error investment. </p>
<p>And I wouldn&#8217;t say creativity has to be at a level where it eludes most of us.  Rather, I&#8217;d say the talent behind achieving Zazzle success is in choosing a niche that performs.  If somebody is looking for a theme that you have and you&#8217;ve produced an adequate design across a spectrum of products, they will buy.  So far, that seems to be a better strategy than having a bunch of items in one category &#8211; like a bunch of mugs or t-shirts that don&#8217;t relate to one another.</p>
<p>I have really enjoyed this collaboration, too.  It has been comforting to know that others are facing similar challenges going forward toward retirement.  It&#8217;s been fun to share what we&#8217;ve learned, and if it helps out, that&#8217;s great.  There&#8217;s enough potential business out there for everyone to achieve, but there&#8217;s no getting around it does take work.  And you&#8217;re right about diversification, too.  All eggs one basket doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
<p>I feel like we took an online friendship to a different level than we had before, too, and that more than anything is rewarding.  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should have said, &quot;for the past 19 years.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: Dot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 16:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been sick with the flu and slept through most of the past four days.  I&#039;m almost better now and sorry I missed this.  Some great research (and a funny image) went into this, Betsy.  Thanks for the flattering words about me.  I&#039;ve never been worried about keeping active, because I&#039;m interested in so many things I don&#039;t even have time for them all, and I had planned on blogging and doing many other things in my now-gone leisure time.  Retirement was going to be my reward for dragging myself to work for the past 29 years while sick, in pain and/or depressed, so now I feel like I did all that for no reward just more work than ever.  Retirement was going to be the time when I could finally devote enough time to all my projects, instead of devoting it to all my employers&#039; projects.  Sigh.

By the way, I wanted to add that, from my travels around Zazzle, I would say that a person needs at least some artistic or design sense, and the more the better.  If not, you&#039;ll kind of be limited to slogans on things like T-shirts or bumper stickers.  I had thought they had note pads and yellow stickies, but I was mistaken.  I don&#039;t have a whole lot of artistic talent, but I can arrange things and am familiar with Paint Shop Pro, which is similar to PhotoShop.  I&#039;ve had to &quot;photoshop&quot; most of the public domain images I&#039;ve found.  In the future I may decide it&#039;s worth subscribing to a stock photo service, though I don&#039;t at present.  

A lot of the photos aren&#039;t very good quality, and many need, at the very least, to be cropped.  I&#039;ve had to determine the license for each photo on a case-by-case basis, because licensing is so complicated nowadays.  Finding free, public domain photos is hard, unless you&#039;re going for historic stuff.  Finding free, good quality, public domain original art, cartoons or abstract designs is almost impossible.

Betsy, thanks again for this great collaboration and for all the good information you&#039;ve given me without fear of creating more competition for you guys.  It&#039;s been fun doing, reading, and working on the ideas.  I hope other pairs of bloggers will try it.  I&#039;ll let everyone know when I have a store set up on Zazzle so you can see what I&#039;ve come up with.  I&#039;ve got to come up with a lot more than Zazzle, though, to get where I want to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been sick with the flu and slept through most of the past four days.  I&#8217;m almost better now and sorry I missed this.  Some great research (and a funny image) went into this, Betsy.  Thanks for the flattering words about me.  I&#8217;ve never been worried about keeping active, because I&#8217;m interested in so many things I don&#8217;t even have time for them all, and I had planned on blogging and doing many other things in my now-gone leisure time.  Retirement was going to be my reward for dragging myself to work for the past 29 years while sick, in pain and/or depressed, so now I feel like I did all that for no reward just more work than ever.  Retirement was going to be the time when I could finally devote enough time to all my projects, instead of devoting it to all my employers&#8217; projects.  Sigh.</p>
<p>By the way, I wanted to add that, from my travels around Zazzle, I would say that a person needs at least some artistic or design sense, and the more the better.  If not, you&#8217;ll kind of be limited to slogans on things like T-shirts or bumper stickers.  I had thought they had note pads and yellow stickies, but I was mistaken.  I don&#8217;t have a whole lot of artistic talent, but I can arrange things and am familiar with Paint Shop Pro, which is similar to PhotoShop.  I&#8217;ve had to &#8220;photoshop&#8221; most of the public domain images I&#8217;ve found.  In the future I may decide it&#8217;s worth subscribing to a stock photo service, though I don&#8217;t at present.  </p>
<p>A lot of the photos aren&#8217;t very good quality, and many need, at the very least, to be cropped.  I&#8217;ve had to determine the license for each photo on a case-by-case basis, because licensing is so complicated nowadays.  Finding free, public domain photos is hard, unless you&#8217;re going for historic stuff.  Finding free, good quality, public domain original art, cartoons or abstract designs is almost impossible.</p>
<p>Betsy, thanks again for this great collaboration and for all the good information you&#8217;ve given me without fear of creating more competition for you guys.  It&#8217;s been fun doing, reading, and working on the ideas.  I hope other pairs of bloggers will try it.  I&#8217;ll let everyone know when I have a store set up on Zazzle so you can see what I&#8217;ve come up with.  I&#8217;ve got to come up with a lot more than Zazzle, though, to get where I want to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy Wuebker</title>
		<link>http://passingthru.com/2009/10/through-a-glass-grimly-part-5/comment-page-1/#comment-4174</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy Wuebker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jannie - Yes, your SS will follow you wherever you retire.  :)  I think you have to start taking it when you&#039;re 70.  And you&#039;re right, there are lots of people who are going to either adapt or not survive.  Thanks.

Hi Davina - I&#039;m with you.  I didn&#039;t want to think about retirement.  I think people who are frugal will have the upper hand.  I&#039;ve read stories about people who have lived beyond their means and don&#039;t have the skill sets needed to fend for themselves.  The recession has tipped them over the edge, and they&#039;re so shell-shocked they can&#039;t act.  I never feared growing old alone; it was more like resignation should it occur.  Thanks.

Hi Barbara - Hahahaha Granny Bloggers LMAO now you&#039;re talking!  And staving off dementia is a plus in anyone&#039;s book, too.  :D  It&#039;s interesting that a mindset develops - I&#039;ve &#039;retired&#039; from working for anyone else.  And I know many who have retired and say, &quot;I don&#039;t know how I had time to work.&quot;  So, whatever we choose or must do, keeping active will pay off.  Thank you.

Hi Vered - I don&#039;t mind the idea of continuing to work as long as it&#039;s at something I enjoy and can physically do, either.  The AARP article has a 92 year old who just quit working full time for the government recently.  And she doesn&#039;t look 92.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jannie &#8211; Yes, your SS will follow you wherever you retire.  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think you have to start taking it when you&#8217;re 70.  And you&#8217;re right, there are lots of people who are going to either adapt or not survive.  Thanks.</p>
<p>Hi Davina &#8211; I&#8217;m with you.  I didn&#8217;t want to think about retirement.  I think people who are frugal will have the upper hand.  I&#8217;ve read stories about people who have lived beyond their means and don&#8217;t have the skill sets needed to fend for themselves.  The recession has tipped them over the edge, and they&#8217;re so shell-shocked they can&#8217;t act.  I never feared growing old alone; it was more like resignation should it occur.  Thanks.</p>
<p>Hi Barbara &#8211; Hahahaha Granny Bloggers LMAO now you&#8217;re talking!  And staving off dementia is a plus in anyone&#8217;s book, too.  <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   It&#8217;s interesting that a mindset develops &#8211; I&#8217;ve &#8216;retired&#8217; from working for anyone else.  And I know many who have retired and say, &#8220;I don&#8217;t know how I had time to work.&#8221;  So, whatever we choose or must do, keeping active will pay off.  Thank you.</p>
<p>Hi Vered &#8211; I don&#8217;t mind the idea of continuing to work as long as it&#8217;s at something I enjoy and can physically do, either.  The AARP article has a 92 year old who just quit working full time for the government recently.  And she doesn&#8217;t look 92.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: vered &#124; blogger for hire</title>
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		<dc:creator>vered &#124; blogger for hire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding the upside to working for as long as you can, I can totally see it. I think no one wants to work 100 hours a week when they are 70, but frankly, if I had to choose between 100 hours a week and no work at all, I would choose the former. Working is good for our brain.
.-= vered &#124; blogger for hire&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://momgrind.com/2009/10/09/halloween-costumes-for-kids/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Inappropriate Halloween Costumes for Kids&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the upside to working for as long as you can, I can totally see it. I think no one wants to work 100 hours a week when they are 70, but frankly, if I had to choose between 100 hours a week and no work at all, I would choose the former. Working is good for our brain.<br />
.-= vered | blogger for hire&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://momgrind.com/2009/10/09/halloween-costumes-for-kids/" rel="nofollow">Inappropriate Halloween Costumes for Kids</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Barbara Swafford</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barbara Swafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 07:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Betsy, 

I&#039;m reading this post out of order (I still need to read Dot&#039;s), but what you wrote is so true. Retirement in this day and age is not what it was for our parents. 

Ironically, even though I&#039;m a baby boomer, I don&#039;t even think of retiring. I mean, what would I do? I&#039;m not content to just sit around, and even traveling (which I&#039;ve already done quite a bit of), can get old after awhile (or it can for me). 

I get so much joy out of keeping my mind occupied with learning and challenging myself, this is what I see myself doing until I can&#039;t do it any longer. And after reading how it could also stave off dementia, that&#039;s all the better. 

I say we all grow old together and become &quot;granny&quot; bloggers. WoOT! :lol:
.-= Barbara Swafford&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bloggingwithoutablog/DWWZ/~3/H_zzdY_rNKY/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Caution – Read At Your Own Risk&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Betsy, </p>
<p>I&#8217;m reading this post out of order (I still need to read Dot&#8217;s), but what you wrote is so true. Retirement in this day and age is not what it was for our parents. </p>
<p>Ironically, even though I&#8217;m a baby boomer, I don&#8217;t even think of retiring. I mean, what would I do? I&#8217;m not content to just sit around, and even traveling (which I&#8217;ve already done quite a bit of), can get old after awhile (or it can for me). </p>
<p>I get so much joy out of keeping my mind occupied with learning and challenging myself, this is what I see myself doing until I can&#8217;t do it any longer. And after reading how it could also stave off dementia, that&#8217;s all the better. </p>
<p>I say we all grow old together and become &#8220;granny&#8221; bloggers. WoOT! <img src='http://passingthru.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
.-= Barbara Swafford&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/bloggingwithoutablog/DWWZ/~3/H_zzdY_rNKY/" rel="nofollow">Caution – Read At Your Own Risk</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: Davina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 19:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Betsy. This has been a great series because it has forced me to consider my future. Till now I&#039;ve just been going with the flow and &quot;pretending&quot; that it will all work out -- blind faith if you will. I&#039;ve got about 20 years left till 65 and find it difficult to even think about retirement. 

I started &quot;planning&quot; for it when I was working a full-time job by contributing to mutual funds. Things have changed now as I&#039;m self-employed and busy staying afloat. A little disconcerting I have to admit. To my benefit, I&#039;m quite happy to live a frugal life. As long as I have enough for the necessities and a comfortable place to live... and someone special to share it with, I&#039;m good. They say love isn&#039;t always enough and that it won&#039;t pay the bills... but I don&#039;t want to grow old alone. I fear that more than lack of $$$.
.-= Davina&#180;s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShadesOfCrimson/~3/8CeEjr-83ew/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;8. A Trail Through Thyme&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Betsy. This has been a great series because it has forced me to consider my future. Till now I&#8217;ve just been going with the flow and &#8220;pretending&#8221; that it will all work out &#8212; blind faith if you will. I&#8217;ve got about 20 years left till 65 and find it difficult to even think about retirement. </p>
<p>I started &#8220;planning&#8221; for it when I was working a full-time job by contributing to mutual funds. Things have changed now as I&#8217;m self-employed and busy staying afloat. A little disconcerting I have to admit. To my benefit, I&#8217;m quite happy to live a frugal life. As long as I have enough for the necessities and a comfortable place to live&#8230; and someone special to share it with, I&#8217;m good. They say love isn&#8217;t always enough and that it won&#8217;t pay the bills&#8230; but I don&#8217;t want to grow old alone. I fear that more than lack of $$$.<br />
.-= Davina&#180;s last blog ..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/ShadesOfCrimson/~3/8CeEjr-83ew/" rel="nofollow">8. A Trail Through Thyme</a> =-.</p>
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